The Yankees Win The Jesus Montero Trade Again

From MLB Trade Rumors:

The Mariners announce that they have designated pitcher Hector Noesi for assignment. The move clears space to add reliever Dominic Leone to the 25-man roster. The Mariners used six pitchers, including Noesi, to get through six innings of relief in a 12-inning game yesterday. (Noesi took the loss, giving up a walk-off home run to Coco Crisp.) Leone provides the Mariners with an extra arm in their bullpen.


Noesi, 27, has a 5.64 career ERA with 6.4 K/9 and 3.4 BB/9 in 191 1/3 innings, some of them as a starter. He pitched just 27 1/3 innings with the Mariners in 2013, spending much of the season in the minors. The Mariners acquired him from the Yankees in the Jesus Montero / Michael Pineda trade in early 2012.

Maybe the Yankees can get Noesi back for Eduardo Nunez? Continue reading The Yankees Win The Jesus Montero Trade Again

So The Yankees Basically Won The Pineda-Montero Trade Yesterday, Right?

Pineda vs BOS ST

The title of this post was a topic that came up on our daily email thread yesterday, mostly jokingly if I interpreted the email correctly.  The now infamous Michael PinedaJesus Montero trade of 2012 has been an easy source of comedy in the baseball world with how poorly the deal has turned out for both sides thus far, but the more I thought about it last night, the more I think the joke is actually true.  Even if he wakes up today, has his right arm fall completely off of his body, and never throws another pitch for the Yankees again, Pineda’s start yesterday guaranteed a W for the Yankees on that deal. Continue reading So The Yankees Basically Won The Pineda-Montero Trade Yesterday, Right?

Quick Hit: Mariners send Montero down to AAA

Just in case you hadn’t heard the news, the Seattle Mariners will be sending Jesus Montero down to their triple-A affiliate in Tacoma.

The Mariners have just finished up a 2-7 road trip – their two wins came here against the Yankees, of course – and along with sending Montero down, they’re recalling catcher Jesus Sucre to replace him. Yes, there are two Jesuses and they’re both catchers.

Or are they?

It seems the Mariners may be finally realizing that they would be better served with Montero at either DH or even first base because he’s just not cutting it at catcher. Hey, the Yankees could have told them that!

So this is an interesting development. With Michael Pineda on his way back from shoulder surgery and eyeing a June return – barring any setbacks, naturally – and Montero back in the Minors for the Mariners, I wonder who will make it back to the big leagues first.

I also wonder if we will finally know after all this time, who actually won that damn trade? Continue reading Quick Hit: Mariners send Montero down to AAA

Sunday Links: Cano $, Liriano, Joba, Montero, IPK

-You might have missed it since the trade came down late last night, but Francisco Liriano was traded in division to the Chicago White Sox. According to BPs Kevin Goldstien, the two players the Twins received in return are an MLB ready utility infielder and a lefty who may or may not stick at the back of a MLB rotation. At that price I would have given the Twins Ramiro Pena+Warren and stuck him in the Yankee bullpen as insurance, but that’s just me. -Kenny Williams may not be done dealing (is he ever?) There are reports the ChiSox want Continue reading Sunday Links: Cano $, Liriano, Joba, Montero, IPK

Despite Pineda injury, Yanks haven’t missed Montero

Its become conventional wisdom to say that the Montero-Pineda swap from last January has been complete disaster for the Yanks. Brian Cashman himself wouldn’t argue the point, calling all second guessing of the deal fair game in a recent press conference. But so far in the 2012 season, on the field, the Yanks haven’t missed Jesus Montero one bit. Actually, they’ve received better production from the players they signed to take his ABs. The whole reason why Jesus was traded was he lacked a position on the Yanks, and would be relegated to DH duties. As a righty bat, he Continue reading Despite Pineda injury, Yanks haven’t missed Montero

Looking at the Pineda/Montero Deal In Light of Trend Toward Long-Term Extensions

(The following is being syndicated from The Captain’s Blog; follow me on Twitter at@williamnyy23). Because of Michael Pineda’s shoulder tendinitis, not to mention the corresponding decline in velocity that was either a manifestation or cause of the injury, two questions have become popular: have the Mariners already won the trade and, if allowed to take a mulligan, would/should the Yankees still pull the trigger? Before answering the latter question, it’s important to consider the proliferation of long-term contracts being signed before free agency. Just this afternoon, it was reported that Joey Votto and Matt Cain were close to signing extensions, continuing a trend that has seen many of the games best Continue reading Looking at the Pineda/Montero Deal In Light of Trend Toward Long-Term Extensions

Nightly Links: Kuroda, Cust, Montero

Hiroki Kuroda was strong yet again in today’s 7.0 innings of work, giving up 6 hits,  2 runs, and 6 strikeouts. Cory Wade struggled again and George Kontos went 2.0 innings, earning 3 strikeouts, but blew the save by giving up 1 hit, a 2 run homerun off the bat of Jason Heyward. Offensively, Eduardo Nunez and Eric Chavez had big days, each picking up a double amongst multi-hit days. Raul Ibanez had a single and was robbed of a homerun by Heyward. He certainly looks better at the plate following his homerun on Saturday. It was an interesting game Continue reading Nightly Links: Kuroda, Cust, Montero

Yankees win Montero trade

For a day. So I woke up early this morning to watch the Oakland Athletics host the Seattle Mariners in Tokyo, Japan. The game started on at 6:15 eastern time. When the first pitch was thrown, the coffee wasn’t ready yet and I had a headache. But I couldn’t miss the very first game of the 2012 MLB season. Plus, the game featured a lot of interesting story lines. There was Felix Hernandez making his first start. He didn’t disappoint. Brandon McCarthy made his first start since becoming a magazine cover and Twitter star. He didn’t disappoint either. Yeonis Cespedes made his first major league start. He hit a double on a wicked curve which was impressive. Dustin Ackley is a huge story and he came up big in the game. Ichiro Suzuki was playing in his homeland and needs to bounce back from last year. He had four hits and hit the ball hard the only time the A’s got him out. But more than anything, I wanted to watch Jesus Montero.

Look, there is going to be this silliness all season long about who won the big trade between the Mariners and Yankees that sent Michael Pineda and Jose Campos to the Bronx for Jesus Montero and Hector Noesi. I figured I might as well get the silliness started. It will take years to evaluate this trade, but that is not how the Yankees’ market works. Every Montero hit or Pineda clunker will fuel the stupid-talk and vice-versa. I will start it off today since Jesus Montero went without a hit in four at bat. Montero stranded three runners. See? The Yankees were smart to trade him. He’s a bum. Last season was a fluke. Is not Brian Cashman the smartest man on earth?

The moral here is that one game doesn’t make a season or a career. Nor does two games or three or a hundred. Try to keep that in mind during Michael Pineda’s starts and Jesus Montero’s box score results. It is a long season and careers are not made or broken in a short period of time. In ten years we can talk about the merits of this trade. But that will not stop us from enduring this debate every week of this season. Continue reading Yankees win Montero trade

Montero determined to stick at catcher

If you aren’t a big fan of the Yankees’ decision to trade Jesus Montero to Seattle this winter, you might want to stay clear of this report from Bob Harkins of Hardball Talk. Harkins talked to Montero at Mariners’ camp, and Jesus talked up his desire to stick at the catcher position in the big leagues while comparing himself to another bat first catcher with questionable skills behind the plate you might have heard of before (that would be Jorge Posada, if you don’t appreciate opacity. And yes, that was me trolling for an excuse to use “opacity” in a sentence.).

If Montero can stay at catcher long term, the trade is going to start to look a lot better for Seattle than it has, to me, since it was finalized, and if Michael Pineda doesn’t develop into an ace, Brian Cashman may well regret agreeing to the move. However, I’m extremely skeptical that Montero can actually handle catching on a regular basis. What was once a polarizing discussion of his defensive tools slowly turned into a near consensus that Montero lacked the receiving skills and athleticism needed to handle the position last season, and while the Yankees always insisted that they viewed him as a catcher, they never put their money where there mouth was on that contention in terms of the big league team. Indeed, if the Yankees actually thought he could be a catcher, say, next season, I very much doubt they would have even seriously considered trading him for anyone this side of Felix Hernandez or Clayton Kershaw.

The Mariners have every incentive to give Montero a chance to develop behind the plate, and it’s a good thing that Montero wants to work hard at mastering the position, I suppose, but if Montero does develop into a serviceable major league backstop, it would be quite the surprise at this point. Continue reading Montero determined to stick at catcher