The Yankees Win The Jesus Montero Trade Again

From MLB Trade Rumors:

The Mariners announce that they have designated pitcher Hector Noesi for assignment. The move clears space to add reliever Dominic Leone to the 25-man roster. The Mariners used six pitchers, including Noesi, to get through six innings of relief in a 12-inning game yesterday. (Noesi took the loss, giving up a walk-off home run to Coco Crisp.) Leone provides the Mariners with an extra arm in their bullpen.

 

Noesi, 27, has a 5.64 career ERA with 6.4 K/9 and 3.4 BB/9 in 191 1/3 innings, some of them as a starter. He pitched just 27 1/3 innings with the Mariners in 2013, spending much of the season in the minors. The Mariners acquired him from the Yankees in the Jesus Montero / Michael Pineda trade in early 2012.

Maybe the Yankees can get Noesi back for Eduardo Nunez?… Click here to read the rest

So The Yankees Basically Won The Pineda-Montero Trade Yesterday, Right?

Pineda vs BOS ST

The title of this post was a topic that came up on our daily email thread yesterday, mostly jokingly if I interpreted the email correctly.  The now infamous Michael PinedaJesus Montero trade of 2012 has been an easy source of comedy in the baseball world with how poorly the deal has turned out for both sides thus far, but the more I thought about it last night, the more I think the joke is actually true.  Even if he wakes up today, has his right arm fall completely off of his body, and never throws another pitch for the Yankees again, Pineda’s start yesterday guaranteed a W for the Yankees on that deal.

It’s a simple matter of hope.  Pineda’s strong outing yesterday, against an admittedly C-level Red Sox lineup, inspired more hope that he can come back and be an effective Major League starting pitcher, maybe even better than he was in 2011.  Back then Pineda was mostly a thrower, 90% fastballs and sliders, and he got by on the strength of his 4-seamer velocity and sharp slider break.  … Click here to read the rest

Quick Hit: Mariners send Montero down to AAA

Just in case you hadn’t heard the news, the Seattle Mariners will be sending Jesus Montero down to their triple-A affiliate in Tacoma.

The Mariners have just finished up a 2-7 road trip – their two wins came here against the Yankees, of course – and along with sending Montero down, they’re recalling catcher Jesus Sucre to replace him. Yes, there are two Jesuses and they’re both catchers.

Or are they?

It seems the Mariners may be finally realizing that they would be better served with Montero at either DH or even first base because he’s just not cutting it at catcher. Hey, the Yankees could have told them that!

So this is an interesting development. With Michael Pineda on his way back from shoulder surgery and eyeing a June return – barring any setbacks, naturally – and Montero back in the Minors for the Mariners, I wonder who will make it back to the big leagues first.

I also wonder if we will finally know after all this time, who actually won that damn trade?… Click here to read the rest

Sunday Links: Cano $, Liriano, Joba, Montero, IPK

You'd be smiling, too

-You might have missed it since the trade came down late last night, but Francisco Liriano was traded in division to the Chicago White Sox. According to BPs Kevin Goldstien, the two players the Twins received in return are an MLB ready utility infielder and a lefty who may or may not stick at the back of a MLB rotation. At that price I would have given the Twins Ramiro Pena+Warren and stuck him in the Yankee bullpen as insurance, but that’s just me.

-Kenny Williams may not be done dealing (is he ever?) There are reports the ChiSox want to move Gavin Floyd, possibly before Tuesday’s 4:00PM trade deadline.

-Joel Sherman is a terrific reporter, one who I follow closely to stay on top of Yankee news. So when he offers estimates on what he thinks it will take to sign Cano, I have to suspect he got those numbers from someone connected with the Yankees who doesn’t want to put their name to it for obvious reasons.… Click here to read the rest

Despite Pineda injury, Yanks haven’t missed Montero

opposite field vs Jim Johnson

Its become conventional wisdom to say that the Montero-Pineda swap from last January has been complete disaster for the Yanks. Brian Cashman himself wouldn’t argue the point, calling all second guessing of the deal fair game in a recent press conference. But so far in the 2012 season, on the field, the Yanks haven’t missed Jesus Montero one bit. Actually, they’ve received better production from the players they signed to take his ABs.

The whole reason why Jesus was traded was he lacked a position on the Yanks, and would be relegated to DH duties. As a righty bat, he was an even poorer fit since the Yanks had plans to DH Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter about once a week to keep their aging bodies strong. Since Jesus would have spent much of his time at DH had he stayed with the team, let’s compare his numbers to the production the Yanks have had from the DH spot this season:

Montero’s season

Split           G GS  PA  AB  R  H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS
2012 Totals    30 30 121 116 11 31  5  0  5  17  0  1  3 24 .267 .281 .440 .721

Yankee DH’s

Split            G   PA  AB  R   H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO    BA   OBP   SLG   OPS
as DH            33 144 129 17  38  4  0  8  25  2  0 12 22  .295  .347  .512  .859

 

As you can see, the replacements Brian Cashman signed (Jones/Ibanez) have more than held the fort, while A-Rod and Jeter have contributed some good numbers as well.… Click here to read the rest

Looking at the Pineda/Montero Deal In Light of Trend Toward Long-Term Extensions

(The following is being syndicated from The Captain’s Blog; follow me on Twitter at@williamnyy23).

Because of Michael Pineda’s shoulder tendinitis, not to mention the corresponding decline in velocity that was either a manifestation or cause of the injury, two questions have become popular: have the Mariners already won the trade and, if allowed to take a mulligan, would/should the Yankees still pull the trigger?

Joey Votto is about to become the latest young star to sign a long-term extension. (Photo: Getty Images)

Before answering the latter question, it’s important to consider the proliferation of long-term contracts being signed before free agency. Just this afternoon, it was reported that Joey Votto and Matt Cain were close to signing extensions, continuing a trend that has seen many of the games best players locked-up in advance of hitting the open market. As a result, the quality of future free agent classes continues to dwindle, which places a greater emphasis on internal player development.… Click here to read the rest

Nightly Links: Kuroda, Cust, Montero

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