Betances to get TJ

Dellin Betances, the Yankees’ towering righty pitching prospect, will undergo Tommy John surgery, Mike Ashmore reports.  Betances, who has been sidelined with a number of elbow injuries in the past few seasons, will finally get things repaired.  This is another blow to the Yankees’ system, though I think surgery was inevitable for Betances given how frequently he has been injured, and mostly with elbow problems.  Hopefully he can get everything fixed and with rest and rehab, be ready to pick up where he left off in 2011.  We have seen what he can do when he is healthy and mechanically sound.

Betances is the 3rd Yankee pitching prospect to get TJ this season, along with George Kontos and Brett Marshall.  In the last few years, Yankee pitching prospects must lead the world in TJ surgeries, with 3 this year, plus Andrew Brackman, JB Cox, and Chris Garcia in the last few years.

h/t to RAB

15 thoughts on “Betances to get TJ

  1. Very disappointing news! I was hoping to see him not go through something like this and especially after Brackman has had his struggles since coming back.

  2. The Joba rules are terrible by the way! 3 innings, 1 K and 2 ER and he never got above 91 more than once.

  3. The Joba rules are a complete disaster. I think that we have completely screwed this guy up. I am not sure that there is a Yankee brain trust when it comes to pitching or any brains at all.

    • I just re watched his 3 innings and he hit 93 twice and 94 twice and one of each was against Pierzynski in the final at bat of the 3rd on his strike out and the strike out pitch was 94, however other than those 4 pitches he did not throw a fastball that didn’t register at 90 or 91 and as much as I think Joba has the potential to be great 3 innings of 91 isn’t going to cut it, and all of the ones who thought he would go to “bull pen” mode he only had the one K and for the most part couldn’t by a swing and miss with the fastball and started phasing it out in the last inning. I really was not impressed and I also really don’t like the idea of him only going 3 or 4 innings, you have basically told him you aren’t going to get a win for the rest of the season and in fact all you can do is go and try to to get a no decision or you will only have the opportunity to lose. I mean come on, how excited can you get to pitch for a ND as the best outcome?

    • I disagree. The rules have kept him healthy all year, and he has been a moderately decent 4th starter (go look at the other 4th starters in the AL, he compares well). Next season, he will be unleashed, and they will have done everything they could to keep him healthy.

      • He is a good 4 starter but that is all he will ever be if he is throwing 91 and never learns to build up innings… They are mentally hurting him and I think that will come out in the performance he gives going forward, not to mention that they some how have to stretch him out right before the playoffs and then hope he can go the entire first round with out pitching and then wait until the 3rd or 4th game of the next series and be effective and he has proven that is not going to happen if he has to rest that long… If they wanted to build up Chamberlain and keep him healthy they should have let him develop in Scranton and come up at the begging of this year, he would have already built up his stamina and he would have built up the arm strength to throw consistent power, I have watched Chamberlain from the beginning and back into the minors and he was never a 90 or 91 MPH guy, I hope it all works out but I don’t have a good feeling about his development right now, he really has no feel for his own mechanics.

        • I think most young pitchers have mechanical issues- I know Hughes did, Kershaw did, Price did, etc I don’t think he looks any different than most young pitchers with great talent- you see flashes, but it takes time to build consistency.

          • Yes a lot of pitchers do go through it but they are allowed to work it out in the minor leagues… Hughes, Kershaw and Price all spent a decent time in the minors learning how to pitch and learning there mechanics and the ability to keep the fastball velocity up and Joba is the one out of all of them never got sent back down to help himself out becaise the media loved him. The problem I have is with the extreme dip i consistent velocity, this was a guy who was mostly sitting at 94 and would ratchet it up to 97 or 98 on the strike out pitch and now he is throwing 90-91 and then ratcheting it up to 93 or 94 and he loves his slider way to much to throw 91 consistently. Throwing 94 plus had all the hitters he faced gearing up to hit his fastball and when the slider came they swing over it no matter how much outside it breaks but now at 91 they can sit back and lay off slider out of the zone and wait on something that hangs. All of Chamberlain’s best outings were when he was throwing 94 more often than not and cranking the fastball up there and his really bad games have been when he was throwing 89-91. Forget bull pen Joba this guy isn’t even college or Minor league Joba anymore… I think all this worry about him getting hurt has him thinking he is going to get hurt so he is protecting his own arm and trying to be perfect with his pitches and not throw so hard. Joba seems like the type of guy who while he doesn’t want to show can get in his own head real easy and I think they have gotten him second guessing himself, you could see it at the beginning of the season and now you can see started again when they first started talking about how they were going to manage his innings and changing his pitch schedule.

          • I think the velocity questions are fair, and I think that the velocity will come back once Joba feels like the handcuffs on his use are off. To be fair to the Yankees, there were not supposed to be these rules this season. Joba’s injury last year cost him about 40 innings, which means he would have been capped at 190-200 this year.

          • I hope the velocity does resurface but I’m just afraid that getting injured has become one of his main points of focus and if that is the key he may be to afraid to ever take the gloves off, it’s happened to pitchers with good stuff before.

  4. Back to the point of the post — Betances and the large number of Yankee prospects who have TJ or other elbow surgeries. There are more than listed here; if memory serves, add Humberto Sanchez, Lance Pendleton, Mark Melancon, and Jason Stephens. Are elbow surgeries more frequent for the Yankees than for other organizations?

    One might raise a question, then, about the Yankee scouting process. The team has intentionally drafted some pitchers with elbow issues who faced the likelihood of TJ surgery, including Melancon and Brackman. Possibly the organization has too much confidence in the ability of players to rebound from the surgery. Too, either because of scouting or policy within the organization, the team may not be attending closely enough to the pitching mechanics of prospects that point to elbow problems down the road. The pattern suggests that the team should review its approach from scouting thru development to see whether best practices are being followed.

    Of course, this could also be something of a statistical freak, much as the run of injuries the Mets experienced this year was far from the norm.

    • There may be some more with the Yankees, but that might be by design. The Yankees are generally less reliant on their farm system than other clubs, so they can afford to draft players with injury issues and wait on some of them to pay off.

    • Not to mention some of the better prospects only fall to use because they have injury concerns (Joba even falls into this category) and because of the ability to spend money the Yankees have the ability to take risks like that. If we had a rash of shoulder problems I would be worried but at this point TJ surgery almost means nothing, some guys even come back throwing harder than did before seems like they have that surgery down, for the most part guys can come back and dominate on occasion.

      • TJ isn’t all that uncommon among minor league pitchers. Tons and tons of pitchers have it. We just hear about the Yankees.

  5. I don’t think its something that the Yanks ignore. From what Marshall siad he knew when his tear happened. It was when he accidentally dropped his arm slot. Freak things happen