Comments on: Are the Yanks prepared to wipe the egg off their face? http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2010/03/17/are-the-yanks-prepared-to-wipe-the-egg-off-their-face/ It's About The Money - A New York Yankees Blog Wed, 23 May 2012 03:24:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Eli http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2010/03/17/are-the-yanks-prepared-to-wipe-the-egg-off-their-face/comment-page-1/#comment-216 Eli Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:07:33 +0000 http://itsaboutthemoney.net/?p=11788#comment-216 The first line was supposed to say "anyone who regularly reads the NY tabloids." The first line was supposed to say "anyone who regularly reads the NY tabloids."

]]> By: Eli http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2010/03/17/are-the-yanks-prepared-to-wipe-the-egg-off-their-face/comment-page-1/#comment-215 Eli Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:05:11 +0000 http://itsaboutthemoney.net/?p=11788#comment-215 Jason, the Joba rules will be seen as a failure by anyone who regularly reads the NY. If Joba is anything less than godlike, he will have failed to live up to the expectations of many. He came up early (too early) because the Yanks needed help in a playoff push and performed like a dominant closer for 24 innings. He threw 100 innings in 2008, splitting time, and then threw 157 innings last year with a 4.75 ERA. There is value to that, from a 5th starter. If he can cut his walk numbers down from over 4/9IP he's a solid starter. He doesn't turn 25 until September. I understand this is a mess in the media, but from a development POV, the Yanks have a 24 year old with some success in the majors who doesn't have a spot in the rotation because he plays for the defending WS champs who are loaded. People love bashing the Yankees. It's almost as popular as baseball itself. The Yanks will always have every little non-story over analyzed to the point where there will always be something they did wrong. But it's not like Dayton Moore is running the team or anything. They will be OK. Jason, the Joba rules will be seen as a failure by anyone who regularly reads the NY. If Joba is anything less than godlike, he will have failed to live up to the expectations of many. He came up early (too early) because the Yanks needed help in a playoff push and performed like a dominant closer for 24 innings. He threw 100 innings in 2008, splitting time, and then threw 157 innings last year with a 4.75 ERA. There is value to that, from a 5th starter. If he can cut his walk numbers down from over 4/9IP he's a solid starter. He doesn't turn 25 until September. I understand this is a mess in the media, but from a development POV, the Yanks have a 24 year old with some success in the majors who doesn't have a spot in the rotation because he plays for the defending WS champs who are loaded.

People love bashing the Yankees. It's almost as popular as baseball itself. The Yanks will always have every little non-story over analyzed to the point where there will always be something they did wrong. But it's not like Dayton Moore is running the team or anything. They will be OK.

]]> By: turrdog http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2010/03/17/are-the-yanks-prepared-to-wipe-the-egg-off-their-face/comment-page-1/#comment-209 turrdog Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:46:35 +0000 http://itsaboutthemoney.net/?p=11788#comment-209 The Yankees held "auditions" for the 5th spot.  They didn't come right out and give it to Joba, although they probably wished he would have grabbed it.  Joba hasn't pitched well, Hughes has, and if the season started tomorrow, we'd see him as part of the rotation. The expression "egg in their face" would be better suited if they gave it to Joba even with a poor Spring, and then mid-May turned to Hughes due to ineffectiveness. The Yankees held “auditions” for the 5th spot.  They didn’t come right out and give it to Joba, although they probably wished he would have grabbed it.  Joba hasn’t pitched well, Hughes has, and if the season started tomorrow, we’d see him as part of the rotation.

The expression “egg in their face” would be better suited if they gave it to Joba even with a poor Spring, and then mid-May turned to Hughes due to ineffectiveness.

]]> By: Jason@IIATMS http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2010/03/17/are-the-yanks-prepared-to-wipe-the-egg-off-their-face/comment-page-1/#comment-208 Jason@IIATMS Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:59:08 +0000 http://itsaboutthemoney.net/?p=11788#comment-208 Larry, You don't think that if Joba is sent to the 'pen, the Joba Rules won't be viewed as an abject failure? That said, I'm sick of writing about Joba and Hughes and the #5 spot. Larry,

You don’t think that if Joba is sent to the ‘pen, the Joba Rules won’t be viewed as an abject failure?

That said, I’m sick of writing about Joba and Hughes and the #5 spot.

]]> By: Tank the Frank http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2010/03/17/are-the-yanks-prepared-to-wipe-the-egg-off-their-face/comment-page-1/#comment-211 Tank the Frank Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:59:40 +0000 http://itsaboutthemoney.net/?p=11788#comment-211 Larry, what you're saying is true but you're leaving out the most important part.  The "Joba Rules"  (a name implying they only pertain to Joba when in fact every young pitcher has innings limits) were enacted with the express purpose of building Chamberlain's arm strength so that the Yankees could allow him to throw 200 innings as a starter without any <em>added</em> fear of injury. If the Yankees stick Chamberlain back in the bullpen this season after all this, then it is a huge failure on their part.  However, some blame does belong to Joba.  Had he pitched better at certain points, it would have made their decision much easier.  But I think (or hope) the Yankees know that you have to give a 23/24-year-old pitcher with only 88 minor-league innings more than one full season in the big leagues before deciding whether he can hack it or not. Larry, what you're saying is true but you're leaving out the most important part.  The "Joba Rules"  (a name implying they only pertain to Joba when in fact every young pitcher has innings limits) were enacted with the express purpose of building Chamberlain's arm strength so that the Yankees could allow him to throw 200 innings as a starter without any added fear of injury.

If the Yankees stick Chamberlain back in the bullpen this season after all this, then it is a huge failure on their part.  However, some blame does belong to Joba.  Had he pitched better at certain points, it would have made their decision much easier.  But I think (or hope) the Yankees know that you have to give a 23/24-year-old pitcher with only 88 minor-league innings more than one full season in the big leagues before deciding whether he can hack it or not.

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