Comments on: Bad ideas and ludicrous statements (aka: Why people hate NYY fans)

By: Lou

Lou — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:50:58 +0000

I think every great baseball player in the big leagues should play in NY for the Yankees and experience that wonderful Yankee big stage feeling. Like, why don’t the Yankees just sign every great All-Star ballplayer in the big leagues and win the World Series every year in 4 game sweeps. Wouldn’t that be so much fun? Now you know why the Yankees are despised, deplored and hated by baseball fans all across America.

By: Eddie

Eddie — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:06:36 +0000

Gardner had an OBP of .345. Exactly league average in one of the best hitters ballpark. He had an OPS+ of 93 which is below average for a major league player. At least it was better than his 127 plate appearances in '08 when he had an OBP of .283! Hello Bengie Molina!

Swisher of course was not bad at all. He had a career year with an OPS+ of 129, a number of which he has never hit, and in the year prior in Chicago, he had an OPS+ of 92. His contract, however, would make him undesirable in any deal.

My point was, we normally go into chat rooms and watch our own fans offer the absurd. My "generic proposal" would only net a guy who maybe had a good year or two and was under a horrible fiscal contract of which a desperate team was trying to get out of. Not a star player.

By: Eddie

Eddie — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:30:11 +0000

There lies the problem. My proposal for a superstar was such a joke that I was not expecting anyone to possibly defend it. So a "possibly" useful bullpen guy, and we have NO IDEA if he will be and he will NOT be in high leverage situations anytime soon, a guy who has bounced around a few organizations and was very unclutch (I am a Yankee season ticket holder, believe me I saw enough of Swisher), a very good defensive guy who can't get on base or hit worth a lick, and Melky who is average at best for possibly one of the best Catchers in MLB history entering his prime? Good lord man!! No wonder people hate us!

By: JB

JB — Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:24:20 +0000

Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt Posada a 10-5 player giving him a no-trade clause? He would have to approve a trade and I dont believe he would do that.

By: Will@IIATMS

Will@IIATMS — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:15:49 +0000

Eddie,

I agree with you that Yankees fans (and fans of any team, really) tend to imagine their crap to be gold, and worth other teams' cornerstone players.

But I can think of lots of players who I'd trade for the package above (all significantly less valuable than Joe Mauer, of course!). Don't sleep on Melancon, who will be pitching in high leveraged roles by the end of 2010; nor undervalue Swisher, who put up an .869 OPS last season–higher than more ballyhooed players such as Justin Morneau, Victor Martinez, Ichiro, etc.

Gardner happened to be one of the best defenders in baseball last season in the time he played (we've documented it here on numerous occasions) and also happened to get on base at a decent clip.

Ironically, the only player who really doesn't appear to be worth much of anything from that grouping is Melky, who was traded to the Braves for Javier Vazquez!