Help me with a rebuttal *UPDATED with our Top 10 list*

What are “The Top 10 Reasons to Hate the 2010 RedSox”?

I’ll give you a few to start with.  Use the comments below and I’ll update this list with the best ones.

  1. Fire Marshall Clay is in the rotation
  2. Most writers think the Sox rotation is vastly superior to the Yanks.  Will thinks we’re DOOOOOOMED after trying to dispell the rotation myth earlier
  3. The fans think that because the team isn’t #1 in payroll, that the team is on the same playing field as everyone else. [said differently: They actually believe having a 170 million dollar payroll makes them a small market team, from misterd]
  4. Pink hats
  5. That their plan of defense and pitching rather than sluggers might actually, you know, workDespite what Ron Borges thinks.  And to spite BigRed.
  6. The fandom that gave A-Rod, Giambi and Sheffield such a hard time now has Papi, Mike Cameron and Beltre. (from: Andrew from NYaT)
  7. The Red Sox impose plan to sucker, tax poor people (from: Craig Calcaterra via HBT)
  8. They believe that a short porch in Yankee stadium is cheap, but the Green Monster is not. (from: misterd)
  9. Okay, because a preposterous sense of entitlement runs from the organization down to the fans. Look at Lucchino’s comment about the Yankees as “the evil empire” and Henry’s whining about the Yanks’ signing of Teixeira. They pretend that the team doesn’t spend gobs of money, that they’re lovable and scrappy, when they’re actually on just as much of a power-trip as their opponents in the Bronx. (from: Wes)
  10. The define themselves not by their heritage, but by their hatred (see “Yankees suck” commercial). (from: misterd)
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11 thoughts on “Help me with a rebuttal *UPDATED with our Top 10 list*

  1. Just a few off the top of my head:

    Sweet Caroline

    "Red Sox Nation"

    The fandom that gave A-Rod, Giambi and Sheffield such a hard time now has Papi, Mike Cameron and Beltre

  2. Brad@IIATMS

    I would suggest not falling for the trap. Instead, I'd take the high road and go with ten things that are worth respecting about the Red Sox. Off the top of my head and in no particular order…

    1. Fenway Park may be a little narrow in the seat rows, but it's a beautiful park and the team did well refurbishing it while retaining its strengths.

    2. The Red Sox are a worthy, well-run adversary to the Yankees.

    3. As a corollary to point #2, strong competition breeds creativity and innovation, so the strengths of the Red Sox as a division rival have pushed the Yankees to improve their operations.

    4. Terry Francona has easily usurped Joe Torre as a great manager of personalities and in-game strategy.

    5. Take away the Red Sox and the Yankees will be the only team mentioned in all those conversations about the economic disparities in the MLB landscape.

    6. Without Youkilis, would there be a Fack Youk?

    7. Outside of when they wear the green alternates, the Red Sox do have nice-looking uniforms: clean, classy, and time-honored in their design.

    8. While the national TV announcers may not be everyone's favorites, the Red Sox-Yankees rivalry definitely leads to fewer games in which Michael Kay must be heard doing the play-by-play.

    9. The Red Sox made Aaron Boone a legend and gave him a lifetime pass to Old-Timer's Day in NY.

    10. Yankees fans are forever indebted to the Red Sox for that Ruth guy (and Sparky Lyle).

  3. Jason@IIATMS

    Oh I throw plenty of respect at Theo & Co., but this wasn't the place for being nice!  :)

  4. T-shirts that say "Big Papi" on the back with the number instead of "Ortiz".

  5.  

    I hate the Boston Red Sox because Boston fans are: Intolerable, Smug, Invariably Intoxicated, Racist, and speak with a congenital, yet highly irritating speech impediment they moronically refer to as a "Boston Accent."

  6. Wes

    Because they're the Red Sox. Isn't that enough?

    No?

    Okay, because a preposterous sense of entitlement runs from the organization down to the fans. Look at Lucchino's comment about the Yankees as "the evil empire" and Henry's whining about the Yanks' signing of Teixeira. They pretend that the team doesn't spend gobs of money, that they're lovable and scrappy, when they're actually on just as much of a power-trip as their opponents in the Bronx. It's more than a little unseemly really.

  7. Tom L

    That Red Sox Fans have to continually come up with reasons to hate the Yankees.  Why don't they worry about thier own team instead of coming up with reasons that make themselves feel better for coming in 2nd place.

  8. Larry@IIATMS

    Oh, that Sweet Caroline thing.  You ought to list that reason twice.

    Also, does any player ever retire as a Red Sox (Wakefield being the exception that proves the rule)?

    Also, driving players out of town on a rail (Garciaparra, Buckner), then inviting them back for saccharine sweet reconciliations.

  9. Ryan

    I'm gonna disagree and say the "Sweet Caroline" looks fun… the Yankees could use a classy song (perhaps Frank?) that we could all get behind… if anything we should be reprimanded for allowing "Cotton-Eyed-Joe" to be played in our baseball temple – what are we, a minor league team??

     

  10. misterd

    First, I would not use "hate". To hate them empowers them, implies they have gotten to you, and even put themselves on your level. I'd use the terms "pity" or "dismiss" or something similar.

    Secondly, I am having trouble opening up the original list. However, the point you gave isn't a completely unfair one (even if Silva himself is NOT a Yankee fan). So I suggest avoiding cheap shots if we can use substantive ones.

    Actually the Silva thing makes a point:

    Are so blinded by the Tragedy of '86, Red Sox fans can no longer distinguish between Yankee fans and Mets fans.

    Others:

    They actually believe having a 170 million dollar payroll makes them a small market team.

    They have no trouble crapping on World Series MVP Mike Lowell.

    They believe that a short porch in Yankee stadium is cheap, but the Green Monster is not.

    They believe that anyone outside New England and ESPN actually gives a damn.

    The define themselves not by their heritage, but by their hatred (see "Yankees suck" commercial).

    Invent a curse because they can't man up and admit they just sucked for 86 years.

    Are so desperate for validation, they actually believe Jim Rice belongs in the Hall of Game

    The only reason Big Papi is still on the team is because he doesn't fit in any of Fenway's seats (ok, that one was cheap).

    They actually  tried to curse the New Yankee Stadium by burying a jersey in the foundation.

    Believe that an "atheletic, defensively solid team" is compatable with Papi, Lowell, and Wakeman.

    They have a closer that needs to use more than one pitch.

  11. Jason@IIATMS

    I will echo some of the sentiments here about "Sweet Caroline":

    I think it's great and it's light years ahead of the embarrassing "Cotton Eyed Joe".  Sure, it "jumped the shark" once that insipid movie came out with whatshisface and that overrated actress.

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