Unwritten or not, ARod’s response was wrong

Dallas Braden is a major league ballplayer. Sure he’s not at the level of an ARod or someone who has accomplished many, many things in the league already.  But he’s a professional and therefore due a level of respect.  To flat-out diss Braden by noting the number of wins is exactly the thing that people used to say about ARod: that he’s only concerned about his numbers.  [To his credit, ARod seemed to adopt the team-first approach last year, but who knows what was/is really going on behind the scenes.]

I admire Braden for defending his turf and standing up to a ballplayer who has, in his mind, done something disrespectful.  Even someone in the lofty perch that ARod now inhabits.  There was no reason for ARod to big-time Dallas Braden.  Braden’s full response:

“(The Yankees) are an extremely classy organization with guys who always tend to do the right thing every time; it’s kind of disheartening to see that not show through or be reflected by somebody of (Rodriguez’s) status,” Braden said after the game. “He’s a tremendous player and a tremendous talent, and I don’t care if I’m Cy Young or the 25th man on a roster; if I’ve got the ball in my hand and I’m out there on that mound, that’s not your mound. You want to run across the mound? Go run laps in the bullpen. That’s my mound.”

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He should maybe watch his captain a little more often.”

What ARod should have said was something like this:

“I had no idea I was committing a breach of baseball etiquette by crossing the mound. It was unintentional and I apologize.  There was no intent behind it. I was simply running off the field and didn’t pay attention to my path.”

Instead, ARod circa mid-2000’s came out, and the dumb stuff followed and we have to react like this.

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73 thoughts on “Unwritten or not, ARod’s response was wrong

  1. sully

    I think the fact that Braden referred to himself as the center of the universe during an ESPN interview on the subject proves that Braden isn't reasonable enough of a human being to make assessments as to what the "unwritten rules" of the game are.

    My only regret about what Arod said is that he didn't add that he will do it again.

  2. Tamar Chalker

    What got me was that Braden waited until the inning ended to go after A-Rod.  When A-Rod was running over the mound he was right there, take that time to say something, that way if A-Rod gets in his face, there is no doubt A-Rod was in the wrong.  But by stewing about it and waiting until the inning ended to start spouting off and throwing a fit in the dugout, that is just ridiculous and makes Braden look just as foolish.  A-Rod didn’t help himself, but Braden’s point was lost in his own foolishness.

  3. Nathan

    Excuse me… is this for real? I ask you this if that were Big Poppy running that Braden wont be chirping would he, its so cliche to target Arod… How classy is Braden asking Arod to watch Jeter… is this a joke.  And Jason, you did not quote everything that Braden said… Braden went on to mock Arod for ALCS game 6 slap and the Toronto 'Ha'..  Arod cant say anything right.

    Its disappointing because, ARod saving a kid in Boston traffic got less ink than this Braden fiasco…

    Lets play role reversal, if it were CC pitching and Chavez running and CC chirps, you bet then its CC being crazy.. coz he is a Yankee… blame Yanks for the health care bill while we are at it

  4. Richard von Mayrhauser

    It’s so much fun to watch A-Rod’s Croesus Strut.  Pride goeth and goeth  . . .

  5. One other point – how many times have we heard people say that A-Rod should just be himself, and not say something phony that he thinks is what others want to hear? Well, that’s exactly what he did with his “handful of wins” comment.
    No, it isn’t what Jeter would have said. But it is exactly what Reggie Jackson and Pedro Martinez would have said!  I, for one, am glad Alex gave a good, cutting remark, instead of some phony platitude about how much he really respects Braden, or some nonsense like that.

  6. Marc C

    A-Rod has no respect for the game whatsoever.  This is the third time he’s done something like this:  we all remember him swiping the ball out of the first baseman’s glove during the ALCS in 2004, but who else remembers him yelling “I got it!” as he was running from second against the Blue Jays, and the infielders let it fall?
     
    Once again, it just proves he only cares about himself, and has no respect for the game, or any class.

  7. Brez

    A-rod really went about this all wrong. If he really wanted to put Braden in his place he’d have said, “I was a little surprised. I’d never quite heard that. Especially from a guy that hasn’t done ‘roids in his career. Man up kid!”

  8. Richard von Mayrhauser

    All bow to the Great A-Rod!  His minions command it!

  9. mickey

    So A-Rod is wrong for dissing Braden after Braden cursed him out but Braden wasn't wrong for having a tantrum that would make most 2 year olds proud that instigated A-Rod to diss him?

    Someone tell Braden he should watch the Yankee captain more.  He would never curse out someone on the field, have a meltdown in the dugout, hold a 7 minute press conference about it and go on national TV to further discuss it hours later. 

    The scales of justice in the class department are not balancing in Braden's favor if the player he called out was anyone but A-Rod.

  10. micdog2001

    I will admit Braden was not very "classy" (look at his teeth for goodness sake, he will never be called classy) with his tantrum but I already explained that he was having a rough day, I know on my rough days I get cranky too and I'm not playing an intense game of baseball against the World Champs.  I just like the fact that Braden is making his voice heard and getting the A's a little media attention.  It brings more fans to the stands thereby helping my favorite team.  And by the way, he was specifically asked about the incident by a reporter and I would bet he didn't go to ESPN or whoever, they came to him.

  11. mickey

    "getting the A’s a little media attention"

    Bingo!  There was an article about Sheets and Duscherer jumping down a reporters throat when they asked a question about the upcoming series.  They perceived it as a diss and they were being treated as the little brother to the big brother Yankees before the games started this week.

    Braden is the one who threw out the classy/watch Jeter argument.  If he's gonna wield it as a weapon, he needs to make sure his house is clean.

    I know the media went to him.  Postgame you can even write off comments as heat of the moment.  But he went on ESPN hours later when cooler heads should have stepped in and made statements that had  Ravech and company sounding incredulous and all mention of the incident disappeared from Sportscenter quickly after that because he sounded like such a tool.

    Every team now has the road map to rattle Braden.

  12. Kevin

    Ok…

     

    I'll even go so far as to admit that Braden's response was bush league. I think it's worth mentioning that the guy played sick and still pitched well, but I think the rest of you should admit that A-rod was at least equally bush league for walking across his mound.A former Yankee, David Wells, even said it was bush league and that A-Rod knew exactly what he was doing. Then to top it off, he Big Leagued Braden with the wins comment. I also love it how he used the Wins comment, while he has a history of using steroids. As if his status isn't predicated or enhanced by juicing up to elevate himself.

     

    Come one people. Are you that delusional? None of you think A-Rod did anything wrong? If you took a poll of Major League baseball players and asked them if they thought A-Rod plays the game the right way, what do you think would be the results? I'd bet my life that a strong majority would be negative. I would also willing to bet that even now, Derek Jeter Yankee Captain, dislikes the guy. He's an A-hole and everyone knows it, but blind Yankee fans.

     

    Hey Larry, tone-down the melodrama.

  13. Richard, you write that "Running over the pitcher’s mound is bush league; anybody who has played baseball knows that." Then why is it that almost nobody in baseball even heard about this unwritten rule until yesterday?

    You also say, "Great to see Yankee’s homers like Lisa showing up and thinking A-Rod is God and any player that doesn’t play in New York is a no-name…..Actually, since I’m sure no matter what the situation, she’d never say anything anti-Yankees, superstar or not, she’d probably be all for Phil Hughes beaning Eric Chavez."

    Um, did you read what I said about Brian Bruney and Frankie Rodriguez? K-Rod is my least favorite Met. But Bruney had no right to call him out. So yes, I took a Mets side against a Yankee. Kind of defeats your whole argument right there, dude.

  14. One other point: Just saw this from Marc Carig, regarding Dallas Braden's mound ownership. Derek Jeter said, "It ain’t like he brought it from home."  Ha! Wonder if that will shut up all the WWJD (What Would Jeter Do?) proclaimers.

  15. Jeff

    This is one of the things I dislike about the mainstream media.  They pretend that they are an arbiter of the facts.  They just give the news to the people who demand it and have no personal agenda.  Selfrighteous writers like this who make  judgements about what kind of human beings these athletes are is entirely uninteresting and says more about the type of person the writer is.  Braden made too big a deal about it. A-rod reacted as just about any guy would have.  And this writer either needs to get a job where his services are useful or actually report on baseball games. 

  16. Jason@IIATMS

    Hey Jeff,

    Thanks for even THINKING I was part of the MSM.  I'm honored you'd think that.  Unfortunately, I'm just a fan with a website; one of thousands who choose to put their thoughts and opinions out there for all to consume, debate, agree with, disagree with.  This site isn't here to serve as your source for beat writer quotes and access; we don't have those credentials.  We're here solely and expressly for giving OUR views on the team we follow, the Yankees, as well as other MLB-related activities and actions.

    I do have a job where my services are useful and well-compensated for, although, if you know of any openings where I can report on baseball full time, I'd be interested.

    Thanks for taking the time to write.

  17. Tommybones

    How predictable.  A player finds a reason to call out Alex Rodriguez?  I'm shocked!  It's been a while.  I remember when Arod hit a grand slam against the rival Mets and barely flipped his bat on his way out of the batter's box and Paul LoDuca "took exception," when he crossed home plate.  Of course, Arod's reaction after hitting the homer was no different than the average player after hitting any homer in any game throughout the league, but that didn't stop LoDuca from being considered some kind of hero for standing up to ARod-the-Arrogant!  It's so tiresome and predictable.  Braden is a clown.  Jeter said it best after the game:

    "It never crossed my mind," Jeter said. "I've never heard that before. If you asked me that question yesterday before the game, it's one of those things I'd never think of."

    Jeter said that Braden's statements were "out there" and pointed out that CC Sabathia had spent plenty of time on the Coliseum mound that afternoon as well.

    "It isn't like [Braden] brought it from home, you know what I mean?" Jeter said.

  18. tocom

     

    Assuming the rule exists, it seems to be based largely on not violating someone's personal space and politeness.  Then, I ask myself, if someone violated another's personal space in a minor way and unintentionally, how would I expect the offended person to react.  In this respect, I've been both situations.  Normally, I'd expect a polite (and possibly a stern) reminder from the person, and I'd normally respond with an excuse me.  I wouldn't have thought I had done anything wrong, but I'd probably figure, oh well, I'll just avoid doing that next time I guess.

    Well, what if instead, someone yelled at me, swore at me, and, generally, attacked me publicly for violating this strange rule I've never heard of.  I suspect I'd be rather defensive and I'd take a verbal swipe at the person who attacked me.  Yes, one could take the high road here but I wouldn't blame someone for being defensive and dismissive if this happened to them.  If there is any critique of A-rod here, it would have to be on the grounds that he acted as many of us would have and didn't take the high road.   This is a hard critique for me to make since, while I would like to say I would take the high road, I also know it is very likely I would not.

    It's a whole different issue if the rule was violated intentionally because I think most people would not think it permissible for someone intentionally violating the rule to take a further verbal swipe at the offended person after the incident.    This is where A-rod's character and credibility are the issue (since he denies intention) and this is the important issue for many people.  If his character/credibility are such that we can believe he did this with intent, then his words after the incident can be impugned as well.  Here, I tend to believe A-rod didn't know about the rule, but I'm pretty sure this is where I don't think I could convince someone on the opposite side of this issue.

     

     

     

  19. Hey Jason,

    I agree with your take on what A-Rod's statement should be.  I think if you're accused of breaking an unwritten rule, the last thing you want to be saying is that the credibility of the charge depends on the stats of the accuser.  Would he be saying that if the unwritten rule was something everyone doubtlessly knew?  Not the high road at all, for a guy who should have had plenty of practice taking it.

  20. Brian

    Braden was wrong for 1. getting upset about this 2. thinking this is an actual unwritten rule 3. for trying to show up a veteran – which actually is an unwritten rule.  I have seen with my own eyes players running across the mound in between innings, running across the field after fly balls, and running out to their positions.  I played baseball for 15 yrs and never once ever heard a pitcher claim that spot of dirt as their own and only their own.  Braden probably won't have a long career if he keeps that up and I didn't see to many of his teammates coming to his defense during the game either.

  21. Yankeefan

    As someone who played baseball for 15 years, I am really surprised that  so many people are claiming that they haven't ever heard that walking across the mound is disrespectful.  I can say that I was taught by a former Major League player to stay off the mound unless I was getting ready to pitch.  Most pitchers put a lot of care into preparing the mound each inning and someone just running across it and messing up the dirt you've positioned is bush.  In my opinion, this is just as bad as the clapping/pop-up incident. 

  22. duke

    Kevin S. says:

    April 23, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    I love how everybody gets on A-Rod’s case for dropping a disrespectful comment in response to, well, a disrespectful comment.  Also, I love how people like to contrast A-Rod and Jeter, then bring up “I got it!” as evidence that he’s bush.  What, have we forgotten “Balk!” already?  But Jeter did it, so it was the smartest play Lou Piniella’s ever seen.

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     I remember that game, but it was against the White Sox, not Seattle. I found a game recap:

    http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/24/sports/baseball-yanks-find-magic-in-the-9th-and-a-victory-in-the-10th.html?scp=1&sq=may%2024%201999%20yankees%20white%20sox&st=cse

    Jeter denied causing the balk.

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    I find it for you…..and,oh,I think  you already know it.

     

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