Burying the Hatchet with Joe

And while Brian Cashman approached Torre to deal with the issues earlier in the day, I want to give Torre a lot of credit today. This was his first trip back to the Bronx, and it was a very humble one. This wasn’t Joe Torre Day, in fact, Torre wasn’t even announced to the crowd. He was just there, along with Mattingly, Yogi, Reggie, Boomer, and the rest of the former Yankees. This night was all about The Boss, and Torre understood that perfectly. The Yankees invited him, and Joe flew all the way across the country to spend his night honoring George. Torre wasn’t playing the returning hero last night, he was repenting; silently, symbolically, publicly, apologizing to the Steinbrenner family and the Yankee organization. And for that, Joe Torre deserves some major kudos.

There will be a Joe Torre day. Possibly as early as next season, Torre will get a plaque in Monument Park and have the number 6 retired in his honor. Because the Yankees haven’t issued the number to anyone else since his departure, Torre will have been the last Yankee to wear it. 3 months ago I wouldn’t have been able to tell you whether or not that would happen with any real certainty, but Joe earned it last night. We’ve all had messy break-ups of some kind or another, and it’s time to let the pain of this one fade and move on to remembering the good times.

Welcome back Joe.

About Brien Jackson

Born in Southwestern Ohio and currently residing on the Chesapeake Bay, Brien is a former editor-in-chief of IIATMS who now spends most of his time sitting on his deck watching his tomatoes ripen and consuming far more MLB Network programming than is safe for one's health or sanity.

9 thoughts on “Burying the Hatchet with Joe

  1. I loved it…  And I love that Torre is stepping aside to give Mattingly his chance as Dodgers manager.


    I don't actually think mattingly is going to be good, but I like it when the old guy steps aside to let the guy whose put the time in under him to get his chance.


    Joe Torre managed here 12 season and got the team to the playoffs all 12 years…  an amazing accomplishment no matter how talented the team is… THAT, ultimately, will be his Yankee legacy.



  2. Im glad that torre is back and at some point he will get all the ceremonies and tributes he deserves..im not torre's biggest fan but he did great in new york in the 4 years that we won it…and brien just so you know girardi is not any better than Torre,maybe he is just an step behind. Girardi never had to deal with The Boss wich makes the job a lot easier…Thanks…

  3. Brien,

    I really can't get over the Torre comment.  As Kermin mentioned below, Girardi has never had to deal with "The Boss," who, in all likelihood, would've fired Girardi after we missed the playoffs in 2008.  Even if he didn't, it would've been a much, much bigger issue than it was that offseason.

    I won't make an argument for Torre's "intangibles" or anything like that, but the fact is that we were in the playoffs twleve straight years, and won four world championships in the process. Girardi has had to deal with the A-Rod opt-out and steroid confession, so he must be given credit for that. But he also received CC, Tex, and AJ in one offseason. Torre, of course, had superstars also, but not many that were able to meet/possibly exceed their expectations.

    I mostly agree with you that baseball managers get too much credit/blame for a team's success, so then why say Girardi is a far better manager than Torre? What's this based on? I hope it's not because Girardi seems more "invested" in the game's than Torre did, or that he's always referencing the stat book for pitching matchups out of the bullpen. Basically, if managers aren't all that important, what do you use as a point of reference to compare Giardi and Torre?

  4. I base my assessment of the two solely on in-game tactical/strategic decisions, and I'll stand by that comment. Girardi is a much better field manager than Torre is. I'll even grant that Torre's unique ability to handle Steinbrenner added value to those championship teams, but he also had Zimmer there to blunt his deficiencies.

  5. I totally understand your position, but I just don't think there's enough there to call Giardi better. It seems to me that Girardi is definitely focusing more on statistics and philosophies that weren't exactly as prominent during Torre's glory years (pre-Moneyball/sabermetric popularity), and I'm glad he's doing so, but at the same time, we can't really hold that against Torre pre-2003/2004.

    Girardi has made plenty of questionable decisions, and one could argue that he hasn't handled the AJ/Posada/Cervelli(Molina) situation as well as others could have. And again, Girardi's strategic decisions are largely measured on the results they produce, which is out of the manager's control.

    I really like Girardi and I think he's a perfect fit for the Yankees right now, but I'd still argue that if we can agree that managers importance is overrated, the lines between a great, good, and bad managers start to blur.

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