What did Yanks get for Jeter’s contract?

Born in Southwestern Ohio and currently residing on the Chesapeake Bay, Brien is a former editor-in-chief of IIATMS who now spends most of his time sitting on his deck watching his tomatoes ripen and consuming far more MLB Network programming than is safe for one's health or sanity.

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Born in Southwestern Ohio and currently residing on the Chesapeake Bay, Brien is a former editor-in-chief of IIATMS who now spends most of his time sitting on his deck watching his tomatoes ripen and consuming far more MLB Network programming than is safe for one's health or sanity.

46 thoughts on “What did Yanks get for Jeter’s contract?

  1. Is this article necessary on 4/28? Really? We haven't heard this all before when the contract was being discusse. These are real issues that should be discussed thoroughly, but how about November?

  2. Regarding Soriano, Cashman never said he wasn't a very good pitcher. In fact, he said he made the team better. Cash's objections were business-based, but Levine and Steinbrenner decided the business could take a hit (and it should be their right to make such a decision).

    As for Jeter, where is the disaster? The best thing about being a Yankees fan is they have enough money to be both successful and sentimental. I realize I am probably in the minority, but I think that's a good thing. I just can't imagine being a sports fan and not having sentimentality play a large role. If one's relationship to their team is so cut and dried, why even bother at all?

  3. Honestly it's the years that bother me more than the dollars. They could be paying him $20 million this year and I wouldn't complain if it were a one year deal.

  4. Sigh. It's April 28. Jeter is batting .262, not .162, and is second on the team in hits (granted, most have seemed to be of the infield squib variety). But can we hold off on the Jeter is Finished meme until at least such time as we've had a decent sample size. Red Sox Nation was convinced Papi was done by April 28 last year, and he ended up turning in a pretty decent season. Also, who exactly was going to be the Yankees shortstop if they didn't sign Jeter? Maybe you should lobby for the Yanks to sign Jose Reyes in the off season. He's proven to be such a winner during his storied career.

  5. Overpaying is one thing, overpaying for no reason is another. If someone else had made a realistic offer and forced the Yankees to beat it that would be one thing, but the Yankees were totally bidding against themselves for Jeter, and everyone knew it.

    "We don't want Jeter to follow the route of a Babe Ruth or Willie Mays, and end his career elsewhere after a dispute with the Yanks over a few dollars. "

    This doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Mays was pretty bad in 1973. Ruth was still pretty good in 1935, but he was decidedly less than Ruthian and retired after just 28 games with the Braves. Taking your statement to the logical endpoint, you're basically saying Jeter should be guaranteed a roster spot on the Yankees as long as he wants one no matter what, aren't you?

  6. In normal baseball terms, this contract doesn't make sense, but…

    The Yankees have the luxury of asking themselves different question when dealing with a franchise symbol like Jeter:
    1.) Does overpaying him hurt us?
    2.) Does overpaying him stop us from signing other free agents?

    The answer to both of these is NO.

    Then they ask the same questions as other teams.

    1.) Will it help our business to have him in our uniform?

    Resounding YES (just think of all the pink-hat wearing i'm-not-a-baseball-fan-but-a-capn-jeter-fan people in the stands on the consession lines, tuning into the YES network. A lot will remain fans after Jeter leaves but he brought them in and will continue to according to lists of marketable sports figures).

    Then finally they ask:

    1.) Are we really going to let him play for a different team.

    NO, so this was the price of doing business. I have no problem with it. If i were a fan of most other teams i might.

  7. If jeter is such a great captain and teamate, why did he choose to work out rather than going to andy pettitte's press conference announcing his retirement…the book coming out tells the story that anyone who knows the inside scoop about this team already does, and that is that jeter is not the leader he is portrayed as in the media, and his image is one that has been crafted just as carefully as tiger woods (and we all know how that ended)…just keeping it real

  8. Who cares! Jeter either will retire at the end of this year or be sitting on the pine next year. I just can’t wait until he gone for good!

  9. If it’s one thing I learned from the Brett Favre saga that began 3 years ago, sometimes the image we have of these guys and sometimes how they really act are two different things. I think the point is while it’s convenient as fans to put someone on a pedestal, it’s up to Management to avoid making the same mistake. Personally when Jeter made such an issue about his contract is when I lost any love for the man. He wanted to be paid like a top player and actually even with this “lesser” contract is still being paid like a top player and only continues to decline.

  10. William, thought I'd share with you a list of some of the Opening Day shortstops that preceded Jeter.

    Ruben Amaro, Gene Michael, Jim Mason, Bucky Dent, Roy Smalley, Tim Foli, Bobby Meacham, Wayne Tolleson, Rafael Santana, Alvaro Espinoza, and Tony Fernandez.

    Bucky Dent was the best of the lot. Think we'll miss Jeter when he's gone?

  11. jeter's pride made him great, and now it will decrease his standing in yankee lore when fans and management will be counting the days until his contract is over…in an age of media character creation and assassination (usually coming from the same people) jeter will eventually be exposed as a phony whose best days are behind him

  12. one more thing…would have been great to see jeter pull a tim duncan and tell the team to pay him reasonably but at/below market value so they can use the money to bring in other guys to ensure the long-term success of the team…salary cap issues aside that don't apply to baseball, this is a class move and something our Captain should have done as well…but he didn't…Captain ME

  13. In response to the hall of fame comment. With player movement these days, how many players actually enter or will enter the hall of fame only playing for 1 team in their career? Not many, if any. Many of the guys that have recently entered that played for 1 team (Gwynn, Ripken, Rice) started their playing careers only at the beginning of increased player movement, those that started in the late 80's to early 90's will be less so.____The next question is, is their any real value in it? You referenced Ruth, but what impact on his legacy did 28 games for another team have? He is revered as a Yankee, despite not being initially signed by them and starting his professional career in Boston. Jeter will always be a Yankee, and will always be remembered as such even if he left and played a few sub par seasons with another franchise.____The Yankees build a revenue stream on 1 simple practice. They putting a winning team on the field each season. If by holding onto a legacy player that hurts your chances at winning (not necessarily saying thats the case with Jeter) then you need to move on. It's plan and simple.

  14. The Jeter negiotations and contract signing is actually starting to remind me of the looming sport vs player (or trade) union issues that are just starting to crop up with the set of expiring deals arriving.

    Both sides want to get a deal done, but money is a sticking point. Although they can be resolved it doesn't necessarily mean that either side is going completely happy by how it went or what the terms end up being.

    As far as over-paying and/or over-committing too long to a player, based on how Posada is performing, the Jeter contract might not be the only contract that the Yankees have where that might turn out to be the case. (Then again, it is only the end of April for Posada.)

    Going into the contract negotiations, the assumption was that the Yankees were going to give more money to Jeter than the market would offer him otherwise. So is it really a tragedy that the overpayment took form of both money and perhaps an extra year to bridge the gap between the two parties?

  15. The Yanks didn't have any legitimate better alternatives this year. There's no one on the roster or in the minors that deserved to replace Jeter and which free agent or trade candidate has the balls to come to NY to be the guy who replaced Derek Jeter? $17M for the Yanks is a legitimate business decision (primarily marketing). The 3+ years is the real problem. I've watched almost every single one of his at bats this year and think he's only hit ~5 good balls (hard grounder, liners) that any self-respecting major leaguer would consider a good at bat. Tom's post supports that his .262/.330/.286 overstates his actual swings. I respect Jeter's work ethic and character that made him who he is, but he needs to balance pride vs. ego. Pride would have him volunteer to bat 9th until he gets his swing out of this ridiculous funk (because Girardi shouldn't be forced to do that to him). Right now, it looks like ego is getting in the way. For what it's worth, I was hopefully optimistic coming into the season that he would have a respectable season.

  16. Nunez anyone? Who cares what they pay Jeter? He's their best option, regardless of price. I'll take a 2010 overpaid Jeter over the alternatives right now. And Cliff Lee wasn't coming here, so they didn't need Jeter's $$$ to sign him. ABesides, Tulo or Hanley are not available. And heaven-for-effing-bid they sign Reyes this winter… Now, as for where we are in 2013, I shudder to think. Jeter at SS, A-Rod at 3B, Tex at 1B, Montero at DH. The metrics will be ugly, to say the least.

  17. I dont see teixeira declining significantly on defense/offense in 2 years, as hes only 31 right now. The only real problem would be SS with Jeter and maybe 3B with ARod, although so far this year rodriquez looks real good.

  18. My two cents…. And this is just my fan sentimentalism…..our current group of HOFers are advancing into old age.. why not cultivate a new crew from the stars that carried us through our current golden years….. We screwed up the Bernie williams situation IMO… He was maybe 2-3 yrs away from HOF
    consideration….since we showed him the cold shoulder of the business side of the yankees..now he is barely considered a fringe HOF…..Posada should hang on 1 more year to solidify his Hall case…and then in 5 yrs when Mo retires ..another candidate…

  19. In regards to Jeter…. the historical aspect has not been discussed… He has the chance.. as even an average shortstop for 4 yrs to move into a rarified stratus of revered figures In BASEBALL history.. not just Yankee lore .
    The Yankees cultivate an image of greatness and excellence…Jeter embodies that even to the Haters. In regards to commitment to winning.. Out of the 30 teams, how many field better shortstops
    than a down Jeter… not many… So in the interests of winning and Yankees Legacy interest.. it was ok to overpay Jeter to keep him happy and in the fold… Imagine the procession of Yankees in the coming FutureHOF….posada rivera jeter arod cano teixiera maybe even pettite(if he un retires and pitches 2 more yrs)

  20. Another thought on this topic that I just had is: We are evaluating this contract now essentially one month into the first season of the new contract. The contract is what it is. While we can debate the merits of Yankees front-office for what the ended up agreeing to pay, doesn't it make more sense to withhold judgment until we have the numbers to conclusively state what Jeter was worth as a player on the field during the contract?

    Jeter isn't off to the start we had hoped for this season, but it is still only April of the first year of this new contract.