Casual observation

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  1. ChipBuck

    So says the Yankee fan… ;-)

    • Shawn

      Where is the Sox payroll these days… ;)?

  2. Moiuz

    Brien, salary cap talk is non sense. We don't even know what it is?

  3. forged

    What's the over/under on how long before the players the Marlins have recently acquired are traded off? (I have noticed they have been real careful about not offering no-trade clauses.) The franchise does have a legacy of building a winner and then dismantling the team soon afterwards.

    • BrienJackson

      Everyone seems to think this, but as I just said on Twitter, I'm not sure how this is supposed to work. Especially with Reyes, if no one was willing to outbid the Marlins for him now, who's going to want to pick up the latter half of the contract in three years or so?

      • forged

        I think the reason people are thinking it is just from their trend of "rebuilding" after a world series title. The real answer is going to be how well are the players performing and whether the team can sustain revenues to support the expensive players for the long-haul.

        It is certainly interesting to see a team that was significantly critiqued for their spending habits go openly hunting for what they feel are the best available free agents out there (no matter the cost). It makes me wonder what really has changed for them.

        Will the new stadium be that much of a revenue-changer for the team? If so, how come the public had to finance so much of the stadium?

        (Sorry, I know that is way off topic from their spending on free agents this off-season.)

        • BrienJackson

          Yeah, I can see why people assume that, I just don't think it makes any sense. Back then they sold good young players BEFORE they got super expensive, for the most part. That's a lot different than signing free agents to really big deals and then trying to move them at the tail end of their prime.

        • Eli

          What we have been hearing here in the Miami area is that the Marlins have been making lots of money and have been hiding it. They are actually under investigation right now by the SEC.

      • Shawn

        It seems to me that the Marlin's should have put in "player opt outs" like CC and Arod had. That way if the player is everything they want him to be, he'll mostly likely opt out and the Marlins can leverage that better than a fire sale if the attendance they are projecting does not work out.

  4. domonic

    How did the Marlins become big spenders all of a sudden?

    • Shawn

      Moved to a bigger market and a new stadium.

  5. jay_robertson

    Can't wait for the luxury tax to kick in and bite em.

    Wonder if they can get luxury tax kickbacks from the league, while at the same time having to pay it?

  6. Chris

    So they spend years taking millions in luxury cap money and pretty much keeping it. Then they take hundreds of millions to build a new stadium. Now all of the sudden they are flush with cash?

  7. Matthew G.

    The answer is that they _don't_ have the money for this. They're gambling, people. They're hoping that the new stadium, new name, new look, and new players will sell a bunch of tickets and help pay off this spending binge.

    This will not work. We now have enough years of Florida baseball to look at (and I lived in Florida long enough to know) that it will never support regular season baseball, regardless of whether the team in question is run by lovable geniuses (Rays) or greedy scalawags (Marlins). Florida Does Not Support Baseball.

    This will fail, and by 2013 the Marlins will be desperately shopping Reyes, Buerhle and others to New York, Philly, Boston, et al. Heck, if the Wilpons finally sell the Mets to a new ownership group, Reyes could be back in Flushing in time for dinner.

    • Matthew G.

      Everything is for the Marlins, who insist they understand the hazards of their new world. Asked how it felt to suddenly compete for the best free agents, the team’s president, David Samson, did not say it was exciting.

      “Nerve-racking,” he said. “Because we need to be right.”
      http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/08/sports/baseball

      Yep.

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