Comments on: Is Jorge a Hall of Famer? http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2012/01/10/is-jorge-a-hall-of-famer/ Thu, 29 May 2014 07:41:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 By: Mom http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2012/01/10/is-jorge-a-hall-of-famer/comment-page-1/#comment-21760 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:23:13 +0000 http://itsaboutthemoney.net/?p=24831#comment-21760 Great analysis , nice concluding line.

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By: yankeerudy http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2012/01/10/is-jorge-a-hall-of-famer/comment-page-1/#comment-21628 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 03:56:29 +0000 http://itsaboutthemoney.net/?p=24831#comment-21628 I think most of you are missing the point. The fact that you can seriously argue pros and cons means, by definition, that Jorge does deserve consideration for the Hall. Not that he IS a HOFer, just that he deserves consideration. Contrast his record with, say, Francisco Cervelli who does NOT deserve consideration.

I loved Jorge's grit, stubbornness, and tenacity. I loved how he tried every time out there, and cheered through his triumphs while agonizing over his failures. I enjoyed watching him play. I'm not convinced that he's a slam dunk HOFer, but neither am I convinced he's a one and done candidate either. Time will tell.

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By: Will@IIATMS http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2012/01/10/is-jorge-a-hall-of-famer/comment-page-1/#comment-21603 Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:03:08 +0000 http://itsaboutthemoney.net/?p=24831#comment-21603 I love when people suggest that all we do is look at statistics, or that because we look at them, we don't 1) watch the game, or 2) understand it. I watch upward of 200 baseball games a season, which is probably more than your average bear. Also, by saying "whatever the heck that is" regarding RAR, you even admit ignorance.

By the way, comparing the two on catching base stealers: Piazza was the most stolen on catcher in his league in 93, 94, 95, 96, 98, 99, 01, 02, 06. Posada led his league in that statistic one lone time, in 07.

On passed balls: Piazza led his league in 95 and 96, Posada his in 01 and 06. Piazza 4 times led his league in errors by a catcher, Posada twice. Need I go on?

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By: Will@IIATMS http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2012/01/10/is-jorge-a-hall-of-famer/comment-page-1/#comment-21596 Wed, 11 Jan 2012 15:44:51 +0000 http://itsaboutthemoney.net/?p=24831#comment-21596 Ugh. Glavine. Look here: http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2011/02/04/s

Glavine does not belong in the hall of fame. The guy was a good but never even very good pitcher, who happened to pitch his entire career in NL, mostly on winning teams. All he has (and I really mean all) is his win total. His K/BB, as an example, was a crappy 1.74, and his career FIP was 3.95 (in the NL that just ain't that great).

I hope Moyer hangs around long enough to win 300. His career 4.46 FIP (compiled almost entirely in the AL) is much more comparable to Glavine's than you'd think.

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By: Geoff http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2012/01/10/is-jorge-a-hall-of-famer/comment-page-1/#comment-21590 Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:04:22 +0000 http://itsaboutthemoney.net/?p=24831#comment-21590 Is it an acceptable idea to suggest that Jorge (who was drafted as a 2nd baseman) actually deserves SOME CREDIT for making himself a catcher, who creditably caught over 1000 games in the Major Leagues? His ability to make this adjustment put his bat in the lineup and got great production from a traditionally unlikely source and gave the Yankees tremendous flexibility in the infield for years. His defence, when considered in isolation, is not significantly worse than replacement level, and gave the team great opportunities to add talent in the infield.

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