So, what does the Ichiro trade mean?

Born in Southwestern Ohio and currently residing on the Chesapeake Bay, Brien is a former editor-in-chief of IIATMS who now spends most of his time sitting on his deck watching his tomatoes ripen and consuming far more MLB Network programming than is safe for one's health or sanity.

About Brien Jackson

Born in Southwestern Ohio and currently residing on the Chesapeake Bay, Brien is a former editor-in-chief of IIATMS who now spends most of his time sitting on his deck watching his tomatoes ripen and consuming far more MLB Network programming than is safe for one's health or sanity.

25 thoughts on “So, what does the Ichiro trade mean?

  1. What do you guys think would the best lineup with ichiro now wearing pinstripes??? this is the one i'd like to see, but im almost sure it wont happen.

    1-LF Ichiro

    2-SS Jeets

    3- 2B Cano

    4-3b Arod

    5-CF-Grandy

    6-1B Tex

    7-RF swish

    8-DH Jones/Ibanez/Chavez

    9-C Martin/stewart

    Not bad!!!!

  2. I'll tell you what it means. It means Cashman is a freaking GM Ninja. I don't know how he keeps these things under wraps. First the Grandy trade, then Pineda, now Ichiro. And lets not forget the Tex signing. Doubly impressive is his ability to do it in NY.

    As far as the actual trade. Time will tell. If a playoff run rejuvinates Ichiro, it could be the biggest trade coup in a while.

  3. " and I don’t think Ichiro accepted a trade in order to be reduced to role player status."

    The cruel part is that now we have him, Girardi has the freedom to use Ichiro as a bench player from time to time.

    Why don't the yankees use Jones/Ichiro against lefties and Ibanez/Chavez against righties(with Ichiro playing time to time)? Ichiro's numbers against the lefties are not that much worse from the last four years..

  4. Well, putting a guy with a .288 OBP at the top of the order probably isn't the best place to start.

  5. I think Ichiro will be better at the top of the order.I dont think he'll have a 288 obp with NY.

  6. Brien, Ichiro may not have sought to be a role player, but that's what he is with the Yankees, and he must know that. There is no full-time position for Ichiro on the Yankees, assuming that the current roster stays healthy and produces at current levels, and assuming that Swisher is not seriously injured. Andruw Jones is going to start against lefties, and Ibanez and A-Rod will get most of the ABs at DH. Ichiro will platoon with Jones in LF, and will see additional time as a defensive replacement and even (amazing as it may seem, given that Ichiro is a first ballot HOFer) pinch runner.

    Come 2013, Ichiro retires, or is playing somewhere else. Once Gardner is healthy, there's no room on the Yankees for Ichiro.

    Look. Like every Yankee fan, I'm hoping that the team catches lightning in a bottle, and that Ichiro plays like he did 4 years ago. It could happen, which is why Ichiro is worth a 3-month rental. But Ichiro doesn't have to be vintage Ichrio to help the Yankees. He'll help the Yankees just by being an upgrade over Dewayne Wise.

  7. why assume Ichiro is replacing Chavez in the lineup, why not put Ibanez on the bench and platoon Chavez and Jones at the DH, at least until Chavez cools off?

  8. Ichiro will pursue 3000 hits, so that means 3 more seasons for him if healthy. IF, and a big IF, he performs well the remainder of the season, why couldn't the Yanks keep him? If Swish is gone b/c of big FA money, which he will be, and if watching funds for 2014 $189M level, then why couldn't he replace Swish in RF next year on the cheap? He won't be an $18M poer anymore. More likely the latest trend of older guysd taking $4-$5M. Either a 1 year deal or 3 years/$15M-$18M works in the Yanks budget and we know how the team loves chasing milestones. Arod will get 3000 next year, and while not close to Jeter's march to 3000, Yankee fans, 3-4 years in, will certainly embrace Ichiro's quest.

  9. continued… Yes, I know it means 2 corner OF-ers with no power, but we already lead the league in HRs anyway. Having Jeter, Ichiro and Gardner in the regular lineup for speed and average and great OF defense (Gardner, Grandy and Ichiro are all gold glove-worthy), with power coming from Grandy, Cano, Tex, Arod and the DH split, tell me why this couldn't work? Again, this is all assuming a resurgence from Ichiro. If he bats .260 for us, then he's nothing more than a $2M per 4th OF. But I don't think he will bust in NY.

  10. Defensively, Ichiro is now the best OFer on the Yankees, right? He's also the best stealer on the Yankees now, right? There are OBP concerns from his time in SEA this year, but bat him 9th, provide a lefty in front of Jeter — if Ichiro gets on base he can be hugely disruptive in front of Jeter who is 2nd in the AL in IF hits, thus putting 2 guys on in front of Granderson… now, this isn't discounting the OBP issues (the "Big If"), but if the change of scenery works, this has to be considered a huge win, right?

  11. I just don't really see the point. a) He can barely hit anymore. b) He can't play CF, can he? Wise seemed to be the only guy on the roster that could at least fake CF if Grandy were to get injured or need a day off. Maybe they think Ichiro can play a passable CF? I just don't ever remember him playing there. Given that he can't hit better than Ibanez or Jones (or Russell Branyan, who last I checked was still mashing in AAA), his main value is as a defensive and speed upgrade. If that's the type of player they wanted, is there not anyone else out there who can actually play CF as well?

  12. Pretty sad. Doesn't look like he's ever played CF. Let's hope Girardi thinks to pull Grandy from games in a blowout when they can. Not sure if that will make a difference, but it would be nice for him to be able to get a little time off every once in a while. Hopefully Grandy doesn't get hurt. That would be truly crushing.