Will the Marlins debacle lead to less public stadium money?

I’d like to think that Calcaterra is right about this, but alas, I think it’s more hopeful thinking than anything else:

Loria, both with the way the stadium deal went down in Miami, and now with this cynical, soul-killing trade, has given anti-ballpark advocates a ton of ammunition. He has likewise rendered the old “we need a ballpark to be competitive, just wait until we have one!” pitch of team owners even more obviously hollow than it ever was.  Which is great if, like me, you oppose public stadium projects, but really has to tick off those who want one of their own.

I’m opposed to any and all uses of public money to build stadiums for professional baseball teams unless a) they’re enacted by a popular referendum (and even then, I don’t actively support it, I just don’t so much care if the taxpayers of a locality decide that they really want to spend their money on a stadium) and b) they’re operated as profit generating enterprises for the local government(s) that put up the money, but I have no expectation that what happened in Miami will make any difference anywhere else. So far as broad public opinion goes, I suspect that it will merely harden the opinions of those already opposed, while doing little to change anyone else’s thoughts, and where specific cases are concerned, you’ll mostly see them get treated as their own unique examples. The Rays and A’s, in particular, probably have a lot more goodwill built up than the Marlins did, thanks to a history of winning with low payrolls. Heck, in each of the last two seasons, respectively, they’ve supposedly suffered crippling losses due to cost cutting, and in the immediately following season they made the playoffs with 90+ wins. That’s a far cry from the track record of Loria’s Marlins.

Born in Southwestern Ohio and currently residing on the Chesapeake Bay, Brien is a former editor-in-chief of IIATMS who now spends most of his time sitting on his deck watching his tomatoes ripen and consuming far more MLB Network programming than is safe for one's health or sanity.

7 thoughts on “Will the Marlins debacle lead to less public stadium money?

  1. uyf1950

    Brien, if I can ask about a previous topic, the one about the Yankees arbitration players. I comment on that blog about Cervelli being left of the list. You replied that you would check and see about his service time. Did you get a chance to do that? And is he arbitration eligible?

    • It appears that he’s not. Most people seem to have him listed as such, but those were probably projections that haven’t been updated yet. The service time number Baseball Reference lists for him (2.113) is short of the 2.139 super two cutoff date.

      • uyf1950

        Thank you.

  2. Frank S.

    Speaking of wasting taxpayer money on stadiums, does anyone know what, if anything, the Yankees (who claim they financed the Stadium themselves which is a complete crock) are doing to remedy the parking fiasco? They commandeered a massive amount of public NYC real estate for parking lots that are hardly used even during games, let alone in the offseason, where they are probably over 95% unused. Because who in their right minds would pay $50 for parking — on top of the already exhorbitant ticket and concession prices — to attend a regular season baseball game?

    • rich7041

      This has been an issue for a couple of years now. I wish someone could do something about it. I understand that the lots are run by an independent company. They keep raising rates to cover the shortfall left because fewer & fewer people use the lots. So even fewer people use them. It's a vicious cycle. Personally, I use one of the apartments along Jerome Ave. for $20 a game.

  3. jay hoenemeyer

    No Never Not no how . . Any stadium deal is a goldmine for the hacks that pass for elected government in every major metro area . There are way too many contracts , lawyers consultants architects etc etc to use to shake down $$ political contributions , so the pols just love these deals . It is also a guarantee that these deals are a disaster for the citizen /taxpayer because the team owners are way smarter than the hacks they negotiate with . CF the Cincy situation The Bungles get a sweetheart deal and skank Mike Brown laughs all the way to the bank and the local real estate bill goes up $200 -300 a year to pay the freight , Everyone of these deals is a dog yet the hacks and their dumb bunny voter enablers just can't get enough of them .

  4. Edmund_Dantes

    I don't understand why there isn't a trade off:If the city pays for,say,30% of the stadium they should get a % of the team ownership or revenues

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